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I have no need for a 2000 mile salad, I know myself and my family quite well, and I can safely say that we would adjust quite readily to local produce seasons.

you have no Idea what your talking about obviously, nor even the slightest understanding how food gets from point A to point B and what that process involves.
but hey, if you really want to live like that, plenty of places in the world where you still can, dont let the door hit you in the ass on the way out champ.

Several oil fields are showing a reduction in output (Study finds slower oil field decline rate | Pipeline & Gas Journal | Find Articles at BNET , and TY454 has some info as well), here is an article on oil shale: http://fossil.energy.gov/programs/re.../40010-373.pdf

I do not maintain that oil is in immediate short supply, but I do not see the reason in wasting it on a large scale through unnecessary shipments of anything, including foreign food stuffs. I am also realistic enough to know that it will continue whether I personally think its a good idea or not.

blah blah blah, a lack of education in what is going on with new technologies is your problem, which are actually old. Institute for Energy Research » Blog Archive » Top Five Actions Your Federal Government Can Take to Lower Energy Prices
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I am all for you talking with Ty about this more, the two of us have debated the hell out of it over the past few months and I have alot of respect for the guy, ask him straight up what is a substitute for said oil right now.

How long have those prosperous countries been able to maintain their lifestyle while using up the resources you mention?

damn well we are a prime example of that, huge strides have been made in farming which has allowed us to use the same land over and over again, its called learning from our mistakes, we have done a damn good job at it, your fit, happy and healthy because of it.

I have no issue with using foreign oil, but we shouldn't be relying on it. We should be using renewable resources as much as possible in all phases of life, because when one resource shrinks to a certain level, wars will start to get what's left. Foreign food has security concerns, you really want this stuff coming here? China's contaminated food scandal widens - International Herald Tribune

spend less time reading the green bullshit and you will be 1000 times better off, everything has a trade off, do you know that electric motors existed before combustable? Do you also know that ethenal lost to gasoline originally because guess what WE FUCKING KNEW THEN THAT ETHANOL WAS A PISS POOR CHOICE, do to a variety of circumstances. Oil is right now the best thing we can use, IM all for looking into differnt area's, but a good chunk of those other area's have already been proven well stupid but are pushed forward by those seeking to make money from them, big surprise. the biggest problem is The ignorence of the American people on this.

They may be built by private contractors, a fact of which I am aware, but the money comes from taxation. I am assuming you don't mean to imply that private concerns will be able or willing to fund road construction projects?

So just keep pissing away tax dollars then?


Your turning into a fine liberal.