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Originally Posted by User Name

You're inability to follow the sequential progression of this dialogue is becoming irritating. I was not the first to make references to tv/movies, you were.

My Inability? I mentioned in my first post in this thread that "life isn't a 2 hour movie. The bad guy doesn't give up and start talking so easy, and the good guy sometimes has to take off his white hat so he doesn't get blood on it."

Yes..I made the first mention of TV/Movie. And my meaning was that in the real world, things don't always end like most people think they should, and that there is always something more than meets the eye.

Then your response to my comment was :

"Oh please dude, you suggest life isn't a 2 hour movie and then concoct a scene right out of a Clint Eastwood movie. Turn off the 60 inch plasma TV, leave the comfort of your home theater and start thinking about what truly drives people to make the choices they make."

Where did my scene from a Clint Eastwood movie come in? And then you take a personal jab at me, "turn off the 60 inch plasma TV, leave the comfort of your home theater and start thinking about what truly drives people to make the choices they make "

And my response was to ask you if you had ever served in the military. Because if you haven't (and you haven't) then how in fuck's sake would you know PERSONALLY what the hell you are speaking of? You make a stupid ass sarcastic little comment about me, and then say I'm "deflecting" when I answer your barb?

You = EPIC FAIL.

Originally Posted by User Name

Irrelevant. I do not need to know what murdering someone is like for me to know that it's morally wrong. This is simply a tactic by which you attempt to quash criticism of the subject.

Irrelevant? You have never been faced with the decisions and circumstances that soldiers and investigators are faced with on a regular basis, but you certainly come off like you know what they go through. And you mention "murdering someone".... you sir are the epitomy of the self-serving little pricks all over this country and bad-mouth everything about this country every chance they get...from the comfort of your home, on the computer...after coming home from the job that lets you live a comfortable enough lifestyle to afford to post on message boards such as this.

And just like the others, you are the first to bitch and moan, and last (which means NEVER) to volunteer to fight for this country, or serve in it's Armed Forces. You have never been a solider, will never be a soldier, and so you making statements about how "soliders are no better than terrorists" is just pure f'n drivel.

And the fucked up part it is....as much as I think from your postings, that you are a useless piece of shit, I would gladly serve AGAIN, to protect your right to post your garbage. Because even through I don't AGREE with you...I agree with your RIGHT to give and publish your opinion. That's the difference between you and I.

Originally Posted by User Name

This is where your shortsightedness fails logic. WE are the ones who send autonomous missiles into other countries from a thousand miles away. When they happen to go astray and kill and/or maim innocent people, we say "oops". WE are the ones who support dictators who'll sell us cheap oil. When those dictators oppress, torture and murder their own people, we turn a blind eye. WE then criticize those people who live amidst oppression, chaos and war, partially because of US, when they use whatever means they can to fight us.

Lot of hate huh? You make this country and it's government sound so horrible....so why exactly do you stay here if it's so bad?

But I am confused..what "dicatator" do we "support" that sells us cheap oil? Oil was cheaper before we ousted Sadaam. Last time I checked we weren't real tight with Iran either...so who / where are you referring to?

Originally Posted by User Name

You can not disregard what the "enemy" has had to endure because of us in your criticism of the tactics they use against us.

Wow....well I guess it is happening. They are getting what they want. Since the STATED goal of jihad is for infidels (non-Muslims) is to CONVERT or DIE...that's the ONLY resolution according to the extremists...where do you stand?...or kneel as the case may be.

Originally Posted by User Name

So you concoct the most unlikely of scenarios where by one single person who, as luck would have it, the US manages to take into custody, holds the key to exactly what, where and when a terrorist attack will happen. And this is your justification for allowing a policy of torture by none other than the US government - an organization who has a stellar reputation for altruism

I asked you a question..and you didn't answer it. Typical. Wait a minute.. I know.. you're "deflecting".

Originally Posted by User Name

Listen to yourself man, I hate to keep bringing up a TV/movie connection, but your fantasy here is directly out of Hollywood's playbook.

I would love to live in the dreamworld you are obviously living in. Just because it's not posted on a website or listed on the news, it never happens...right?

Originally Posted by User Name

And people elsewhere in the world are killed in their sleep, where they work and where they play by these same rough men who stand by to mindlessly carry out the orders of incompetent politicians, which in turns creates generation after generation of hatred for Americans, and breads people who's only goal in life is to take the lives of Americans, there by making it impossible for Americans to sleep peaceably in their beds at night.

LOL...sorry, I am not a grammar Nazi..but the "breads" instead of "Breeds" was just a funny image....

And I'm confused...has your sleep been disturbed at night from the worry of terrorists attacking you?

Have you enlisted or volunteered for the military so you can help change this vicious cycle? Run for office? That would be a "no" I'm assuming...my bad, climb back on your soapbox...

Originally Posted by User Name

It's a vicious cycle caused by incompetence and supported by ignorance, and you are (or were) a part of it.

Now I'm "supporting ignorance". And I'm part of the vicious cycle. I'm sorry I must have missed your plan on fixing all of this in the midst of your bashing...oops that's right..there wasn't one.

Do you REALLY think that if we just "left everyone alone" they'd stop? Newsflash...they won't. But since you KNOW everything is so wrong and everyone is so "ignorant" then by all means share your knowledge and experience with those in power. I'm sure they are open to suggestions.

Originally Posted by User Name

You inject yourself into the middle of a problem that has existed for decades, and you're either willfully ignorant of, or actively refuse to acknowledge, that your participation creates the very conditions which then necessitates your actions. Since you create the hatred you fight, you accomplish nothing.

LOL......That's kind of like which came first...the chicken or the egg?

But do me a favor there buddy...name those SPECIFIC events that justified the 9/11 attacks. And please list what started it all, and what was the cause? I'm sure we'd all like to know.

Originally Posted by User Name

So yea, thanks for nothing.

Your welcome. It's not a problem...because if the security of this country was left to people such as yourself, we'd have been speaking German (East Coast) and Japanese (West Coast) a long time ago. It's okay...you keep cussing and typing, sipping your wine, drinking your latte....and bitching about your portfolio going down. There will always be some "ignorant" person there to volunteer to serve on your behalf.