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Old 10-22-2008, 04:50 AM   #136 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by ctandc View Post
... So you are telling me, that it would not be worth it to get the information from the prisoner, regardless of methods?

So 2 weeks later when 5 aircraft went down and 1000 civilians were killed, you could look at the loved ones of those people killed and tell them "I'm sorry, but we couldn't lower ourselves to the standards of the terrorists to get the info to prevent the attacks. The ends do not justify the means."

If you could...well..you're either a liar, delusional, or you just say you would because you've never had to make that decision. ...
Seeing as this has already been well addressed by the fact (brought up repeatedly already) that torture does not result in *reliable* information, and thus is ineffective as well as immoral and unethical, yes, I'd say it wouldn't be worth it.

As Parabellum said:
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Bottom line: If we endorse torture, we are no better than our enemies.

I don't want to hear any more shit about "its necessary to protect Americans".

Bullshit...its widely known that information extracted through torture is highly unreliable....so not only is it a poor tool, it lowers us to their level.

I will NOT endorse a breech of ethics for security...that is the road to hell.
I agree 100%.

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