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Old 05-23-2008, 03:55 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by jim schmidt View Post
I'm not really a fan of smoking bans, but I do think that citizens can rightfully decide to ban things from public spaces. Cigarettes might not be the best example, but if the personal freedom is shitting on the table in restaurants, it's easier to see the necessity of societal norms.

This is the problem with anarchist philosophies -- taken to the logical end, they serve to infringe rather than to enable.
Uh huh. Good thing then no one around here is an anarchist, isn't it, Captain Strawman?

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Originally Posted by jiffy View Post
You would think that supply and demand would solve the smoking ban problem.

If there are so many people that don't like smoke then a non-smoking bar would do good business against smoking bars.
Given a free market to work in, that would probably be the common result, thus meeting the needs of everyone without violating the rights of anyone. But then the bureaucrats and do-gooder busybodies wouldn't have anything to do, and we can't have that now, can we?

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