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Sanctions are a joke. Sanctions have never worked and they will never work.
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Are you sure about that? N. Kor....
to name a more recent example. Kadafi's government, one that's a little while ago
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I'm using the same words that the government used then. People didn't bother arguing symantecs then if I recall. Just keep in mind Iraq only aided with the plot - there were others not at all associated with the Iraq government that were involved.
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Isn't that sort of speaking to my point earlier about the countries surrounding Iraq?
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I couldn't care less about what form of government Iraq chooses. But the US needs to stay to stabilize the country, or we WILL have another nutjob in control of the country. That is a guarantee.
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Wrong.. You should care A LOT about what kind of a government that Iraq will have in the future. With what we've done there it's detrimental to our future security. The problem is, no matter what the government, you can be sure that it'll be a corrupted one. Saddam type of government will come to Iraq with in the next 15 years. I'm sure of it. I make this statement based on Iraq's past so I'm very comfortable in making it.
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That sounds like something straight from the mainstream media. Iraq and Vietnam are so different I don't even know where to begin dissecting that argument.
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No need to dissect that argument. Iraq and Vietnam may be in two different parts of the word but our fight is very very similar. We fought the Vietcong there and we fight the 'insurgents' here. At the end of the day you're fighting the citizens of that country. So the fight is very similar and it's a never ending one.
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That's why we need to stay for now until the country can be stabilized. If we leave now, it is guaranteed to go to shit.
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The country will not stabilize. There are 3 factions there and they are killing each other. Unless that country get divided into 3 separate sections, these people will kill each other. That is as certainty as the sun will rise tomorrow. The problem we created there is so far out of control that there is no reasonable way of resolving it. When you take into count the historical, cultural and religious conflicts there, coupled with it's neighbors, it's just waiting to explode. If we decide to stay there until that place stabilizes, then you're looking at a long long occupation and yes more American deaths.