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Old 12-02-2007, 02:41 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Fred S View Post
If those are requirements of operating a motor vehicle in your state how can you bitch about needing to show them to officers? I'm not a fan of being pulled over just so they can search for any BS infraction, but I wouldn't mind if people driving without a license and/or insurance were caught.

Seriously, if the roadblock gets one drunk driver off the road shouldn't it be considered a success? The DD checkpoints are announced here in SoCal as well but they always end up catching more then one dumbass DDing anyway.
The main issue isn't showing your state-issued documents (that's a secondary issue); the main issue is being stopped in the first place. Law enforcement is *supposed* to have probable cause to detain/question/harass/interfere with you as an American citizen. Roadblocks/traffic checks violate that principle and further accustom the population AND LE to unconstitutional search techniques. They invert the assumption of innocence and require each person to provide evidence (paper examination, officer assessment) that they are not guilty.

And no, using man-days of officers to hold up thousands of cars for cumulative hundreds of hours to remove one drunk driver off the road is not a "success".

KeS

BTW - if the goal is to get drunk drivers off the road, why not just stake out club parking lots/garages, observe the inebriated drivers get in, and arrest them as they pull out? THAT's probable cause, stops the driving hazard at its source, and is more efficient as well. I can only assume that the club owners complain and get the chamber of commerce to pressure the local PD.

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