Baron - As far as the MotoGP pants - some have the 8" zipper while other have the full 360 one. I ordered two pair of Apex pants - one for me and one for a buddy. His pants were too big, but they had the full zipper and they fit me, so I sent the other pair back that only had the 8" zipper. If you order Apex pants online, make certain you ask for a pair with the 360 zipper. The pair I have have a tag stating they were made in 06. The pair with the 8" zipper were made in 04. Both were purchased from
www.motorcyclecloseouts.com. The pants were identical except the zippers.